In a Boosted Media's teardown video of a DD2, it's clear that the wheelbase has an MHL200 encoder chip. This is a 12bit encoder (only 4096 counts per revolution!), you can get the datasheet of the chip from the internet.
The positional sensor has 65535 steps, which is 16bit.
One revolution has 21845 steps.
You can easily test this yourself, not even with a Fanatec software tool where one might argue it reads out wrong values to indicate it might be 16bit, no, its an official 3rd party tool like DIView from Heusinkveld. ;)
It's funny how they try to fool us over and over again.
As a csldd owner I feel cheated, because both this new model and the new qr2 clamping system show that both the csldd and the ddpro have a serious design problem.
Those of us who have had the problem of disconnections were simply asked to tighten the clamp more, and now they have replaced it on the qr2. It is outrageous. And, worst of all, they are still selling the bases with the same crappy clamp.
And now, on the new Clubsport DD base, they have learned their lesson and no longer have the usbc connection on the mast.
To top it off..... they have always used outrunner motors because "they are not older than the inrunners, they are just different". But now we switch to inrunner because that's what everyone uses. Ajam.
"Those of us who have had the problem of disconnections were simply asked to tighten the clamp more, and now they have replaced it on the qr2. It is outrageous. And, worst of all, they are still selling the bases with the same crappy clamp." -> If you have disconnection issues then you can contact the support to ask for the new improved clamp.
"they have always used outrunner motors" -> Thats incorrect. CSL DD and GT DD Pro are Inrunner motors. Only Podium DD is Outrunner.
In short: if you have 12 bit hardware decoder, but you're "showing" 16 bit data, you'are emulating (you are making up) the rest of steps, so it's way less accurate (4096 vs 65536 steps)
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Great...more new product releases to add to the already monumental cluster**** that is their current shipping situation.
Fanatec's sense of timing is impeccable. đ
Congrats, let us know what it's like when it gets delivered in 2024...
If they still exist in 2024...
that looks like bigger that 8 nm
12.
Inrunner or outrunner motor?
High res means still 12bits or 16bits at least?
Inrunner.
And of course high res means at least 16bit as every Fanatec DD Base has, even the CSL and GT DD ;)
Thanks Maurice. Inrunner....interesting turnaround
16bit data from a 12bit sensor??? đ
What do you mean? The sensor on P DD, CSL DD and GT DD PRO is 16bit.
In a Boosted Media's teardown video of a DD2, it's clear that the wheelbase has an MHL200 encoder chip. This is a 12bit encoder (only 4096 counts per revolution!), you can get the datasheet of the chip from the internet.
XD
Thats not correct then.
The positional sensor has 65535 steps, which is 16bit.
One revolution has 21845 steps.
You can easily test this yourself, not even with a Fanatec software tool where one might argue it reads out wrong values to indicate it might be 16bit, no, its an official 3rd party tool like DIView from Heusinkveld. ;)
XD
It's funny how they try to fool us over and over again.
As a csldd owner I feel cheated, because both this new model and the new qr2 clamping system show that both the csldd and the ddpro have a serious design problem.
Those of us who have had the problem of disconnections were simply asked to tighten the clamp more, and now they have replaced it on the qr2. It is outrageous. And, worst of all, they are still selling the bases with the same crappy clamp.
And now, on the new Clubsport DD base, they have learned their lesson and no longer have the usbc connection on the mast.
To top it off..... they have always used outrunner motors because "they are not older than the inrunners, they are just different". But now we switch to inrunner because that's what everyone uses. Ajam.
"Those of us who have had the problem of disconnections were simply asked to tighten the clamp more, and now they have replaced it on the qr2. It is outrageous. And, worst of all, they are still selling the bases with the same crappy clamp." -> If you have disconnection issues then you can contact the support to ask for the new improved clamp.
"they have always used outrunner motors" -> Thats incorrect. CSL DD and GT DD Pro are Inrunner motors. Only Podium DD is Outrunner.
No, you're wrong Maurice.
Sensor is 12bits hardware, data is 16bits (interpolated).
I think it's clear, isn't it?
Nope.
But okay.
What's then the function of the MHL200 chip?
Or only the boosted unit was carrying that sensor by mistake? or how?
i think you not clearly understand what he mean by 16 vs 12, they both can have 65535 steps but 16 is more accurate
I'm banned for this topic again.....understood
I can't quote to Allan's answer, I don't know why
In short: if you have 12 bit hardware decoder, but you're "showing" 16 bit data, you'are emulating (you are making up) the rest of steps, so it's way less accurate (4096 vs 65536 steps)
"they have always used outrunner motors" -> Thats incorrect. CSL DD and GT DD Pro are Inrunner motors. Only Podium DD is Outrunner.
So I was completely wrong with that, sorry
there is even a topic in this forum about this
yes, in fact I have copied the literal sentence of that post, which never received a response, which is the modus operandi of this company.
I guess a ps5 compatible version will come at a later date perhaps?
most likely , its hard hit for moza tho as they r12 is not support xbox
Just seen the ps5 version is going to be 15nm and €999
Where?
Strange.... It should be the exact same hardware, as the csldd and ddpro
It was mentioned at the Expo today.
It's called CS DD+ and it will be Playstation compatible with 15 Nm Holding Torque for 999€.
Jajajajajajaja......magical
I’ll go for that one, was trying to find a dd1 ps4 at a good price but the second hand value is ridiculous.
so fanatec have just done me a solid, well as long as they can actually deliver it to the U.K., but now I’m excited for this product