New User Wheel not recognised in any driving game
Hi, a new owner of the CLS DD and P1v2. and pedals.
Followed the install, and all working as expected in the Fanatec control panel, with successful calibration, movement ranges, force feedback and display function tests. Also the FANATEC Wheel shows up under Devices and printers in windows, but not under game controllers, alongside my other devices which show correctly.
When I select a 'wheel' in the games below, and attempt to assign the wheel to the wheel axes i get nothing, and don't get any mapping of the pedals. I can assign a joystick axis (thrustmaster) to all of the games below with no difficulty. Ive tried setting all controllers to default and starting from scratch but same result.
I have tried to 'disable steam input' in the controllers section of Steam for each game, but this made no difference.
I have the FANALAB V1.69.7 installed and the CLS DD appears alongside the 'CLS Elite Stering P1 for Playstation 4' But i'm using my PC. (just an observation).
I am up to date with the firmware wheel base 1.1.8.5, motor, 1.0.3.2.
What am I missing.
Assetta Corsa
Project Cars
EuroTruck Simulator
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For All those old games you need to run the base in Compatibility Mode so it gets recognized as a CSW V2.5.
Thank you. Is this a 'wheel/base' setting or a game setting ?
Its a wheel base setting, explained in the manual.
what is Compatibility Mode? i mean i buy the base and other stuff , and i never needed search any Compatibility Mode setting.
Ok, Got to 'Comp Mode CSW V2.5 as visible in the Fanatec control panel. (power button or 4 and + keys on wheel).
Could not see any 'CSW V2.5 profiles in any of the games, Only some CSW_V2. Tried these and also manual configuration in the three titles as above. No mapping of either axes or buttons on any of the games. Is it possible This wheel is not supported on any of these games ?
The compatibility mode is a feature for exactly those old games which were released before the base was released so the game simply cant recognize this new base. In Compatibility Mode the Base gets a USB device ID of the CSW V2.5 which is compatible with those old games, so then the CSL DD becomes a CSW V2.5 and "just works"
No that's not possible, it is compatible.
UPDATE:
Issue solved, Got the wheel working with one of the titles. Solution was to uninstall software/drivers and disconnect the wheel. Re-install the drivers, and restart. Then connect the wheel. I can see the 'FANATEC ClubSport Wheel Base v2.5 on the Windows devices & printers screen, and have movement on the setup console of Assetta corsa.
Thanks for all the replies.
i cant see the FANATEC ClubSport Wheel Base v2.5
maybe they drivers not fully support windows 11 yet
Windows 11 is supported since it was launched years ago.
i to seen images how they look at windows 10, but i cant say that i see same at windows 11.
its not big deal as currently they work.
I have no idea what you mean, the driver works the same on W11 as on W10...
W11 is nothing new anymore but rather old, the driver is fully compatible.
wait ,to you say that you have at your windows 11 the FANATEC ClubSport Wheel Base v2.5 somewhere? because seriously i cant find it
not to mention the devises and printers self not even exist anymore at win 11
never mind, i wound it, it was very weird place not use to it yet
I think we are talking about two very different things.
In USB-Gamecontrollers its still "FANATEC Wheel". Only in Settings -> Bluetooth and Devices -> Devices you would see "ClubSport WheelBase V2.5".
And then in games its also recognized as a CSW V2.5 when you use the CSL DD in the yellow compatibility mode.
Anyway, OP has fixed his issue, all is working fine now.
that confuses me little tho, if they both are same why we to need the yellow mode?
i mean i been using the pc mode from beginning and it works all the games what i been tested
The yellow mode is needed to emulate to the game that a CSW V2.5 is used. This is needed for all OLD games which were released before the CSL DD was released as otherwise those games would not recognize the CSL DD.
There is ZERO difference other than a dfifferent USB Device ID - thats it and enough to gain compatibility for literally every older game which at least supports the CSW V2.5
ok now that is not true because i play f1 challenge 99-02 at pc mode and also allot others old titles
maybe there was some games but so far i not seen at all any game that i need actually use yellow mode self
I am talking about sims like AC or Project CARS 1 and 2 which both need the compatibility mode for full functionality (meaning FFB AND LED / Display support), not such ancient old games.
Anyway we can end the discussion now, OP has fixed the issue.
Good night.
FFB is microsoft standard feature what started use mostly at year 1997, as fanatec follows the standard all the games should work with the FFB what is been included from developers
Automobilista, it works great in yellow mode, but not so well in red mode. In PC mode the degrees of rotation of the steering wheel are not synchronized, and the LEDs do not work. Just to give an example.
Exactly for games like this the Compatibility Mode was made for and what I was talking about all the time...
that makes me fonder even more now, how this is even possible? to you say fanatec made mistake in past at some point by not follow standard? so they needed fix this by make some yellow extra function for they wheel?
Hm?!
They did no mistake in the past. Its the old games which cant support new bases to their full extend. This has nothing to do with someone not following standards. Fanatec is so kind to implement such a compatibility mode for those old games which simply do not support such a new base like a CSL DD.
THe compatibility mode is a FEATURE and not a Bugfix.
I think you see the "issue" completely wrong... The "issue" is on the game side where AMS1 for example was released way before the CSL DD was even announced. So AMS1 can not utilise the features of the CSL DD (like Sensitivity or LEDs). AMS1 however supports the CSW V2.5 - and here comes the compatibility mode into place where you can use that mode so your CSL DD imitates the USB Device ID of a CSW V2.5 so the game thinks that you have a CSW V2.5 connected which the game fully supports so everything "just works".
The problem is only for previous generation games, which use specific and advanced wheel modes. Such as degrees of real rotation for each car in the game. To obtain this function it is absolutely necessary that the game "recognizes" the right steering wheel.
For even older games, simply select a generic steering wheel, and it will work in any mode.
the only compatibility issue what i know is that old games may support only 16 buttons.
and this yellow thing not fixes that
You really have completely wrong understanding of what the compatibility mode should actually do...
The yellow thing of course does not fix game limitations like just 16 supported buttons. But the yellow thing fixes issues like not correctly working steering Sensitivity and not working LEDs and Displays which in some older games cant work on native pc mode but only in PC compatibility mode where the base emulates to be a different base which is supported by the game ;)
And THAT is the purpose of the compatibility mode, not fixing game limitations of just 16 supported buttons..........
but i not need that at steering wheel buttons are totally randomly mapped that i not even able make some off them work because off that
What?!🤔
well yeah, my wheel not even have that many buttons but some are mappet at 49, 50
i'm not able make them work like this at all in some games. compatibility mode should fix this as that what it means but it don't todo that.
if talk about thrustmaster then they know this and they have also all buttons correctly mapped
"i'm not able make them work like this at all in some games. compatibility mode should fix this as that what it means but it don't todo that."
NO!!! That is exactly NOT what the compatbility mode means!!!
I am really loosing patience... Did you even read my answers what the compatibility mode is supposed to do?! Or do you not understand what I am saying, maybe a language barrier?
The compatibility mode is supposed to enable basic stuff like steering sensitivity and especially LEDs and Display support for games which were released before the CSL DD was released where those features would simply not work at all in native PC mode - the compatibility mode "fixes" this by emulating the USB Device ID of a CSW V2.5 so the game sees the base as a CSW V2.5.
The compatibility is NOT supposed to change any button limitation issues of old games which only support a handful of buttons. Those issues are IMPOSSIBLE to fix with the compatibility mode - and that mode was never made to do that.
Thrustmaster wheels are not as advanced as the Fanatec ones, thats the reason why some advanced (!) features like MPS Pulse / Constant numbers are in the higher button input number area. This wont change, no matter which mode you use as all the compatibilityn mode is doing is changing the USB device ID - button mapping and everything else stays as is and wont change. The mode is exclusively made to emulate being a different base than it is, nothing more.
So for those old games you will have to live with those limitations of those old games, there is nothing Fanatec can or will do here!