Struggling to get good FFB with the CSL DD
Mitchell Wesson
Member
Hello all,
I have been driving with the CSL DD (Mclaren gt3 v2 wheel and clubsport v3 pedals) for a few weeks now. I play ACC and F1 2021 on PC. I've managed to find some ffb that i enjoy on ACC but not so much on f1 2021. Currently, I'm using a slightly edited version of this forums' recommended ffb settings, to jog your memory:
SEN 360 (I used 350 for slightly more responsiveness)
FFB 100 (I use 70)
FFS Peak
NDP 25
NFR OFF
NIN OFF
INT 6 (I use 18 normally)
FEI 100
FOR 100
SPR 100
DPR 100
And the in game settings are essentially:
Overall FFB 65 (I use 56) and;
Wheel damper 10.
(for ontrack, offtrack and rumblestrip effects I use 0 because it doesn't add any real value. I also use understeer enhance which will be explained in the next line))
I would like to preface the following by saying accurate simulation isn't my goal, I'm looking to drive as fast as possible so I don't mind braking realistic physics.
Firstly, I find that the ffb is not smooth at all, I would almost liken it to a gear driven wheel (I come from the g29) it feels super 'crunchy' ergo I use INT 18 which doesn't totally solve this issue anyway. Upping it to 18 takes away the bulk of the crunch but i still get this noticeable 'squeaking' feeling. every few degrees of rotation it's like the ffb doesn't know what it's doing. This was most noticeable this one time when the game crashed but it didn't stop the ffb. I had a nice consistent force to turn the wheel and literally every 10 or so degrees you could feel the ffb was really weird and 'squeaky' for a degree or two and then back to normal as you kept rotating. This is extremely frustrating as I have a direct drive wheel yet the quality of the ffb does not feel like it (on f1 2021). This is half the reason I decided to post this on this forum, perhaps my DD has an issue, perhaps everyone with a DD has to deal with this problem on f1 2021.
Secondly, to my taste the ffb is not as responsive as I'd like. I'm going to refer to my experience with the ffb on my g29 on f1 2020 and f1 2021. I found that on the g29, whilst the ffb was weak and low quality, it was quite responsive. By this I mean, going down the straights, turning left and right would instantly* give me feedback on the wheel. With the DD it feels almost delayed, like the ffb has to slowly accelerate to it's peak rather than instantly giving me acknowledgement that I've turned the wheel. This is extremely frustrating as I find it renders the ffb almost useless as it gives you no timely information, by the time you feel the ffb in your wheel that you've lost the rear, you've spun.
*By instantly I mean the moment the next cog made contact with the gear
I appreciate you taking the time to read this post! Please let me know your thoughts on how I could potentially overcome the issues.
Thank you,
Mitch
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Hey!
In the tuning menu in the control panel app you can try to do a factory reset of the tuning menu, i had some struggels with the f1 ffb when i recieved my boost pack and did read somewhere a suggestion that i should try doing a factory reset and it worked for me! Including my settings to if you want to try.
SEN 280
FFB 100
FFS Peak
NDP 25
NFR OFF
NIN OFF
INT 7
FEI 100
FOR 100
SPR 100
DPR OFF
Ingame FFB 73
Damper 3-5
Hi Mitch,
It is difficult to interpret exactly what you mean by 'crunchy' and 'squeaky', but it is possible that you have some excessive play in the quick release (either from the wheel-side or the base-side), which you can contact support about. But the second part about a lack of response in the FFB doesn't make much sense to me, and if there is an issue with play, I don't think it would solve what you're describing there. But the responsiveness of a CSL DD is significantly better than a G29 in all aspects of FFB. For a fair comparison it would make sense to use exactly the same in-game settings as you were using with your G29.
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Mitch:
I'l try to describe something but it's difficult, because ENG is not my native language.
When you turn the wheel Right 5 degress you feel the "normal force 10*". You keep turning by another 5 degress but the force is not 10* but 5*. Then you turn it by another 5 degress and the force you feel is "normal" 10*.
*force 10 and 5 is imaginary number. Point is, when you are turning, there are like "holes" where the force drops?
Does this describe what you are experiencing?
Hi, I have the same situation with the csl dd. I think it has to be a config thing but I have tried changing all values and nothing happens, is really frustrating. Please help
same problem here! News?
I have it similar to F1 21 on Xbox Series X with Formula 2.5X.
When I turn in, I sometimes find that the steering wheel doesn't grip the first time, as if the first section were empty. Also thought about whether it could possibly be due to the QR1?
Or that after irregular times I feel a constant vibrating (oscillating) in the steering wheel! Also on the same routes.
Translated by google. 🙈
hi i have the same problems. my FFB are good with F1 and Ac. Last week i bought ACC i do not feet the power at all. I tried all the settings it is not working for me.
by the way im playing in XBox one S