Strange behavior of FFB settings

Martin VlachMartin Vlach Member
edited December 1 in Wheel Bases (and Racing Wheels)

Hello,

I am a new owner of Gran Turismo DD Extreme (ClubSport DD+ base + GT wheel). In the first phase I am trying to find out what all the FFB settings do and how to optimise them. And during that process I found that my wheel sometimes feels strange. At first I thought this is due to settings I am trying to modify here and there during training sessions but then I found out that it has nothing to do with it.

To be specific, I loaded Spa in Gran Turismo 7 with Gr3 car I am used to race with here with previous hardware. And found that It is almost impossible for me to drive through low-speed corners — the car had enormous resistance when turning and the turning radius was such that I couldn't fit into the corner even at minimum speed. I tried to find what setting is the cause of this but no success. But…

…then I changed one setting, tried and returned it back to previous value. I changed nothing but my car started to behave completely differently — the way I was used to from my previous steering hardware.

I am confused now. And I am pretty sure I did not nothing more and nothing else then said above. I do not know how to continue tuning my settings when it works this way. I don't even know how to rely on how my car is set up and how it will perform in the race.

I have latest Fanatec drivers, all my hardware is Fanatec (wheel, base and v3 pedals). I used Fanatec Control Panel to set my Settings profile and then make changes on my wheel display to polish it.

Is that some known issue? And if so, is there a way to make sure my settings will work properly?

Thanks.

Comments

  • Allan LehtlaAllan Lehtla Member

    if you had before the logitech then they may have different behaviors about game settings, so you may need recharge them based a hardware what you currently have

  • Martin VlachMartin Vlach Member

    My previous hardware has nothing to do with this topic. I drive with Fanatec for about a week already. I use the same Setup all the time, I only found that even when I changed nothing, car started to behave differently.

    Maybe one question comes to my mind — when I change some setting using my wheel display, does it change on the fly or do I have to confirm it somehow?

    I push settings button on my wheel to display settings menu, find the parameter I want to change, change its value and continue driving to feel how it changes the driving. I keep settings display on while driving and change this or that from time to time. Is that OK or am I missing something? Do I have to confirm or save every new value somehow?

  • Allan LehtlaAllan Lehtla Member
    edited December 1

    are you using auto setup for the steering wheel? in this case game developers does have access for this. they can change that depends how they feel

    also in gt7 between version changes they to been also change the cars how they feel

  • Martin VlachMartin Vlach Member

    No, I use my own custom setup.

    Since I posted this issue I noticed no weird behavior. But I know it appeared several times before. I only wanted to know if this is some well known bug in current Fanatec drivers or not. Maybe it will never appear again hopefully.

  • MadDog-ICMadDog-IC Member
    https://forum.fanatec.com/discussion/comment/132842#Comment_132842

    Only bug that I know of that might cause your issue is the long standing NFR setting in Fanatec control panel, it can create more heavyness and rough feeling in Wheelbase / Steering Wheel rotations at random times on my DD1 (Very rare to happen as I use to use NFR=20 but it could make the wheelbase feel broken, so I stopped using it and set NFR=0) , not sure if it affects the newer CS DD's.

  • Neil ReubenNeil Reuben Member

    DD+ since April this year on PS5/PS5 Pro almost all GT7 - are you PS4 or 5? Not sure if or how much a diff there

    Also what was your previous wheel base? Another brand will feel different

    I have had a few - very rare - where in session something noticeably changed coming from the game - if you restart does it change back?

    Settings on the wheel do take affect immediately - If I pick a different setup or make a change to one on the wheel I feel it immediately

    GT7 physics have changed a bunch in that time due to updates. Current seems good but some cars have issues

    The Auto setup on the wheel is now actually a pretty good place to start w DD+. Use in Game torque 5 and sensitivity 5-8. Then while in game, go to A setup on wheel and scroll through to note the values set as a starting point for further adjustment.

    In game torque below 3 is not linear and above 8 may get some clipping. Better to use base FFB to adjust as DD+ has plenty

    Sensistivty is adjusting the stiffness of the virtual steering rack - think bushing stiffness - so this will affect feel and response - 1 is way too soft IMO

    Pedals make sure to check the calibration in the options section

  • Martin VlachMartin Vlach Member

    Useful info for me, thanks.

    I never felt the strange behavior since I posted this topic so I believe it has been fixed somehow and will remain fine.

  • Neil ReubenNeil Reuben Member
    edited December 3

    Most likely a game issue rather than a FW/Base issue - randomly but infrequent occuring not necesarily fixed

    More settings - heavy oscillation at high speeds on GR1 cars in GT7 can be toned down somewhat by lowering FOR and upping FFB to compensate. A separate setup makes it easy to swap

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