New here. Trying to get started with Fanatec

Hello. I currently don't have any sim racing gear, but I have a gaming PC and monitors. With the price and stock situation of entry level Logitech and Thrustmaster stuff right now, I feel it makes sense to jump straight to the Fanatec CSL Elite. I have a few questions though if anyone can help.

In US, the PS4 starter kit is CSL Elite Base v1.1 is $350. The same base for PS4 is $400. The PS4 starter kit is $600 or $570 after discount including $100 pedals. So, the wheel coming with the PS4 starter kit is only $100.

But, the cheapest wheel available is the ClubSport Steering Wheel F1 Esports for $250. Why is the wheel that comes with the PS4 Starter Kit not sold separately to use with the non-PS4 base?

Last question, do both the CSL Elite V1.1 and CSL Elite PS4 take the same driver and firmware updates? Will they both be supported the same into the future?

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  • You are right, all the other brands are marked up like crazy right now, even the used market. I'll try and answer some of what you asked since I just went through the research myself and purchased the CSL Elite Base v1.1.

    The CSL Elite PS4/PC base is actually $50 more that the XB1/PC version because Sony charges licensing fees for peripherals and Xbox does not.

    If I had it to do over I would pay the extra $50 for the PS4 CSL Elite base because you can add an Xbox compatible wheel to that base and that makes it compatible with all three platforms. (PS4 compatibility is tied to the base, XB1 compatibility is tied to the wheel)

    The CSL Elite PS4/PC Wheel is sold out as an individually packaged retail item, perhaps due to the possibility that those wheel/base bundles are pre-packaged? Or perhaps they reserve an allotment of those wheels to be sold with the bases so the "entry point" remains the higher priority.

    I got lucky and got My wheel and pedal set from a local craigslist sale and I just needed the base.

  • Go big or go home, hehe.

    From my own experience, If you do not own a PS4 or planning to game on it. And with rumors of a looming PS5, we don't know yet if current wheels are supported. Id get the ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 with CSL Elite Pedals LC. wheel your choice, BMW M3 GT2 is a good round wheel. And depending on your setup, dot forget the ClubSport Table Clamp V2. The PC is a better sim racing platform.

  • I'll definitely be playing on PC, but you just doubled my cost of entry. Can't justify spending that much to myself when I'm not even sure I'll enjoy it.

  • Save a bit, or get what you could afford now, instead of getting everything in one time. The ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 definitely worth it.

  • Have you used both? Is it really worth double? I have the money to buy something more expensive, but its just not how i am comfortable spending money.

  • I have the CSL Elite, and like you I could have saved a little back then and gotten the ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 cause I had a G29. Its not like I didn't have a starter wheel. But in my haste to buy A Fantec wheel base, just to be in the Fanatec hype. A decision I truly regret to this DAY! I bought the CSL Elite PS4, for it's dual compatibility like the G29.

    Cause I had a PS4 and was heavily into GT Sport, what a fool I was. Compared to the CSL Elite, the ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 built quality is way better. The CSL Elite is all plastic and it has a 2NM difference to the ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 8NM force, that a whole G29 wheel difference, and the G29 is a good wheel.

    I'm thinking to invest in a ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 myself, cause realistically I'll never be able to afford a DD1 or DD2 wheelbase, not now not ever. And seeing how things are faring within the sim racing community, I'm quite disappointed with the whole thing.

    To you I'd say wait if must or get the ClubSport Wheel Base V2.5 you wont regret it.

  • I can and have read all the specs. I understand the differences on paper. But will that actually translate to 2x the realism or 2x the fun? I doubt it. If could get a Logitech or Thrustmaster for their previously low prices, I would do that to start with, but its just not available.

    It seems like you are just suffering from "grass is greener" syndrome. You are raving about the ClubSport 2.5 but have never even used it. Stick with what you have until it doesn't work anymore. Don't let what you are missing take away from what you already have.

    If you must, sell if while its still in good shape to help pay for the upgrade you so desire.

    Anyway, thanks for the comments.

  • edited May 2

    My friend the grass is greener IF you have the money.

    And you don't seem to have the money. You didn't understand what you've read. It doesn't translate to 2x the realism. You don't have any thing now, from Fanatec that is. For you it would be a world of difference, even more fun than your own car, if you have one! To ME it would be only a 2NM difference, but upgrading to a full ball bearing and metal construction.

    But let me help you, Get the CSL Elite, I have it. It's great wheel base, having upgraded from a 2NM G29 it's 6NM difference. And you get to use all Fanatec wheel rims. You're asking for advise or asking to hear what you like to hear?

    I have 3 of Fanatec's nicest wheels, McLaren GT3, BMW M3 GT2, Porsche 911 GT3 CUP.

    THE GRASS IS GREENER ON MY SIDE! I'm just adding fertilizer to keep it green. You've just refused the seeds I provided you.

    Good luck!

  • I have the money. I choose not to spend it. I have an NB Miata, lots of fun, but I don't track it or anything like that. Just do back roads sometimes.

    I wasnt trying to get into a fight about what is good and how much better it is. My original questions were about availability of stand-alone cheaper wheels and about drivers and future support. Probably questions that cannot be answered by anyone outside Fanatec.

  • i have tried both, i ran the 2.5 on i racing and ACC for about a year before ever trying the CSL Elite, i used to sim race at a place with membership and would get in maybe 2 hours a week, now i purchased an elite because it is multi compatible and even if it doesn't work for the new ps5 later we still have it for pc for i racing, if you watch twitch and some popular sim racing streaming guys a lot of them are using elite, even though it is fair to say the vast majority is on the 2.5 but for double the price i would not say it is worth the 2nm, simple. I and many others would say spend the extra money on a shifter and brake cell or better pedals entirely. even a cockpit u may be able to find in the price, so you do have to weigh it out. I think your on track though,

  • Thanks for the input. I did see a good deal on a cockpit today and ordered it. Still don't have wheel and pedals. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Still planning to get CSL when Fanatec get some stock.

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