The occasional WQR update pop-ups are not new with 464. They exist for years and can happen every now and then every 50th base start or so, simple restart of the base is enough to workaround the issue as the next start of the base is fine.
Hi, my son is an Xbox user and has the V2 handbrake on the way. We've never updated the firmware on his gear - CSL DD, GT3 V2 Wheel, Clubsport v2 pedals - given that all worked well out the box when purchased in March 2024.
Given the latest firmware mentions some small fixes for the V2 Handbrake, BUT the fact that it's mentioned earlier in this thread that v455 is the last known firmware that works well with XBOX, what should we do? It sounds like updating the firmware may lose XBOX compatibility mode, but then if we don't then the handbrake may not work properly. I'm confused on how to proceed, any advice is most welcome
464 works fine with the CSL DD on Xbox. It's the CS DD which does not work with 464 on Xbox and also only with the Formula v2.5X wheel which issues the semantic firmware 1.0.2.0.
So it doesn't affect you and you can use 464 just fine.
Should I be concerned if my wheel rotates differently on startup? + It seems to take a bit longer to fully start, like that beep sound has a short delay to it.( maybe 10-12 seconds after it stops rotating)
Driver 463 wheel rotated same as always.(1 full revolution)
Driver 464 the wheel rotates clockwise about 10 deg then rotates back to 0 deg (12 o'clock) then clockwise to 180 deg. (6 o'clock) then counter clockwise back to 0 deg. (12 o'clock). podium hub+pbmr
My Mclaren GT3 V2 rotates to the left slightly then clockwise to 180 deg. (6 o'clock) then counter clockwise back to 0 deg. (12 o'clock).
I did try repair driver but did not try a reinstall.
I thought it was but it will go right or left when it 1st moves then will go to 6 oclock then back to 12 oclock. Weather it goes right or left at the start seems random, strange.
I will reinstall 464 driver when I get a chance and post back if it changes.
The usual time until the base is recognized by the PC after you pressed the power button is 10 seconds (after the calibration itself finished after around 6 seconds it takes another 4 seconds for the USB connection which is a known Firmware bug to be improved at some point in the future).
What were the issues you saw in 463 and 464? I was thinking about buying the new handbrake but now I’m hesitant since I would have to upgrade from 462. I have a DD+. Thanks.
I may have a different problem. I am on 455 and having issues getting into XBox mode. This is with 2 different bases, DD1 and DD2 and 2 different wheels, Formula 2.5X and the Xbox universal hub V2. I can get it to work by reseating the wheel several times. Any thoughts on what I can try?
Hi, I own a csl dd with a mclaren gt3 v2 wheel, wrc wheel and v3 pedals. I use this set on xbox, does the 464 driver work well? I wanted to buy the formula v2.5 X wheel, do you have problems with this driver?
I saw this alluded to. I know that from driver release 463 onward supports the Bentley wheel. Does the firmware always send more data to any wheel now? Or is it only restricted to the Bentley wheel? The reason I ask is that if there is a latent DD+ hardware problem, can it show up more readily under firmware 463 than under 462? Even if I don’t have the Bentley wheel? Thank you.
Yes, always. So yes, if there is a sleeping hardware issue of a CS DD unit then it will arise with 463 and 464 independent from the used wheel, however wheels with many features like FOrmula v2 with all its RGB stuff etc are more likely to expose this compared to a relatively simple McLaren wheel which doesnt have much features for example.
I wanted to start racing again and updated my fanatec drivers to 464 yesterday. Now the fanatec drivers recognized my CSL DD als a CSL DD QR in the Fanatec Control panel.
Firmware update failed 2 times, but succeded the third time. But Fanatec Software still wants to update firmware of the QR.
I Still have problems in iracing with heavy stuttering/black screens for 10s and my ffb sometimes just stopps working.
Is this maybe related? are the firmware revisions on my base ok?
You mean the image changed from a QR1 CSL DD to a QR2 CSL DD? Thats normal. It is just a picture without any function. We just want to show the bases with the new QR in official images from now on and not with the old stuff anymore.
Just for reference, are there a lot of DD+ units that have the defect or is it fairly rare? I think I saw someone post that they had a defective unit but I don’t think I saw too many. I am happy with 462 but may need to go to 464 if I buy the v2 handbrake. Thanks.
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Marcel Pfister
there could be issue for DD2 in 464 that it takes wrong speed for the UART
that pop ups this PDD message what makes look like DD2 is completely dead or something
The occasional WQR update pop-ups are not new with 464. They exist for years and can happen every now and then every 50th base start or so, simple restart of the base is enough to workaround the issue as the next start of the base is fine.
i tell again there could be issue somewhere , for example in 451 , default speed is 9600 but some unknown reason it take 19200 instead at 464
i to know what happens when it take wrong speed.
Hi, my son is an Xbox user and has the V2 handbrake on the way. We've never updated the firmware on his gear - CSL DD, GT3 V2 Wheel, Clubsport v2 pedals - given that all worked well out the box when purchased in March 2024.
Given the latest firmware mentions some small fixes for the V2 Handbrake, BUT the fact that it's mentioned earlier in this thread that v455 is the last known firmware that works well with XBOX, what should we do? It sounds like updating the firmware may lose XBOX compatibility mode, but then if we don't then the handbrake may not work properly. I'm confused on how to proceed, any advice is most welcome
im using a brand new dd+ WITH f1 steering wheel
i bought it in the bundlle.
after few minutes of driving the steering wheel start to be detected/undected every half a second and i have to restart the wheelbase to fix it
464 works fine with the CSL DD on Xbox. It's the CS DD which does not work with 464 on Xbox and also only with the Formula v2.5X wheel which issues the semantic firmware 1.0.2.0.
So it doesn't affect you and you can use 464 just fine.
Thank you Maurice for the quick and informative response. This has given me confidence to proceed.
GT DD Pro 8NM
CS DD. on PC.
Should I be concerned if my wheel rotates differently on startup? + It seems to take a bit longer to fully start, like that beep sound has a short delay to it.( maybe 10-12 seconds after it stops rotating)
Driver 463 wheel rotated same as always.(1 full revolution)
Driver 464 the wheel rotates clockwise about 10 deg then rotates back to 0 deg (12 o'clock) then clockwise to 180 deg. (6 o'clock) then counter clockwise back to 0 deg. (12 o'clock). podium hub+pbmr
My Mclaren GT3 V2 rotates to the left slightly then clockwise to 180 deg. (6 o'clock) then counter clockwise back to 0 deg. (12 o'clock).
I did try repair driver but did not try a reinstall.
All else seems fine so far.
Thank You.
you say it auto calibrate differently for different steering wheels ?
I thought it was but it will go right or left when it 1st moves then will go to 6 oclock then back to 12 oclock. Weather it goes right or left at the start seems random, strange.
I will reinstall 464 driver when I get a chance and post back if it changes.
GT DD Pro 8nm. All firmware is up to date.
The usual time until the base is recognized by the PC after you pressed the power button is 10 seconds (after the calibration itself finished after around 6 seconds it takes another 4 seconds for the USB connection which is a known Firmware bug to be improved at some point in the future).
So your behaviour sounds perfectly normal.
What were the issues you saw in 463 and 464? I was thinking about buying the new handbrake but now I’m hesitant since I would have to upgrade from 462. I have a DD+. Thanks.
as DD2 is different base than DD+, im not know if it happens you as well, but in 463 for some reason it just not find base anymore after restart
in 464 it pop those PDD error messages repeatedly, so i just go back to 451 instead
unfortunately, i not manged even fully test the 464 if it still have miss shift or not.
I may have a different problem. I am on 455 and having issues getting into XBox mode. This is with 2 different bases, DD1 and DD2 and 2 different wheels, Formula 2.5X and the Xbox universal hub V2. I can get it to work by reseating the wheel several times. Any thoughts on what I can try?
You can try driver 464 which fixes the not working Xbox mode for P DD and CSL DD but only breaks it for CS DD.
General rule of thumb for Xbox useage: 455 for CS DD, 464 for CSL DD and P DD.
What's the issue here? I reset to factory settings reapplied same problem..............
Hi, I own a csl dd with a mclaren gt3 v2 wheel, wrc wheel and v3 pedals. I use this set on xbox, does the 464 driver work well? I wanted to buy the formula v2.5 X wheel, do you have problems with this driver?
Can't wait to experience the merged driver 😀
Maurice,
I saw this alluded to. I know that from driver release 463 onward supports the Bentley wheel. Does the firmware always send more data to any wheel now? Or is it only restricted to the Bentley wheel? The reason I ask is that if there is a latent DD+ hardware problem, can it show up more readily under firmware 463 than under 462? Even if I don’t have the Bentley wheel? Thank you.
Yes, always. So yes, if there is a sleeping hardware issue of a CS DD unit then it will arise with 463 and 464 independent from the used wheel, however wheels with many features like FOrmula v2 with all its RGB stuff etc are more likely to expose this compared to a relatively simple McLaren wheel which doesnt have much features for example.
Hi guys,
I wanted to start racing again and updated my fanatec drivers to 464 yesterday. Now the fanatec drivers recognized my CSL DD als a CSL DD QR in the Fanatec Control panel.
Firmware update failed 2 times, but succeded the third time. But Fanatec Software still wants to update firmware of the QR.
I Still have problems in iracing with heavy stuttering/black screens for 10s and my ffb sometimes just stopps working.
Is this maybe related? are the firmware revisions on my base ok?
What is a CSL DD QR?
You mean the image changed from a QR1 CSL DD to a QR2 CSL DD? Thats normal. It is just a picture without any function. We just want to show the bases with the new QR in official images from now on and not with the old stuff anymore.
Just for reference, are there a lot of DD+ units that have the defect or is it fairly rare? I think I saw someone post that they had a defective unit but I don’t think I saw too many. I am happy with 462 but may need to go to 464 if I buy the v2 handbrake. Thanks.
restart the base may help, also take steering wheel out
Is this good/problem free (on all platforms, pc/ps5/xsx) with CSL DD/Pro or is it better to stay with older driver/fw (454 in my case).
New DD2 firmware fix missshifting issues?
No.
Is this a known issue? A response would be appreciated.